Military pensioners for Russia and its armed forces. Military length of service - plans and possible implementation
Good afternoon.
I signed a contract, I have conditions that I need to serve 20 years. Correct?
Ruslan, depending on how long you signed the contract.
Within the meaning of the Regulations on the procedure for military service
5. The first contract for military service is concluded for the following periods:
a) with a conscripted military serviceman or another citizen entering military service in a military position for which the state provides for the military rank of a soldier, sailor, sergeant, foreman - for two or three years at the choice of a citizen;
b) with a foreign citizen entering military service in a military position for which the state provides for the military rank of a soldier, sailor, sergeant, foreman - for five years;
c) with a conscripted military serviceman or other citizen entering military service in a military position for which the state provides for the military rank of ensign, midshipman or officer, with the exception of the citizens specified in subparagraph "e" of this paragraph - on five years;
d) with a soldier studying:
in a military educational institution on an educational program of higher education, - for the period of mastering the specified educational program and after receiving higher education - for five years of military service in a military position, for which the state provides for the military rank of officer;
in a military educational institution under the training program for a mid-level specialist, - for the period of mastering the specified educational program and after receiving secondary vocational education:
for five years of military service in a military position, for which the state provides for the military rank of ensign, midshipman;
for three years of military service in a military position for which the state provides for the military rank of sergeant or foreman;
e) with a citizen who has completed a military training program at a military training center under the federal state educational organization higher education and entering immediately after the end of the specified educational organization for military service to a military position for which the state provides for the military rank of an officer - for three years or five years.
5. The new contract is concluded:
a) with a serviceman undergoing military service under a contract (with a citizen who served under a contract), - one year, three years, five years, ten years or for a shorter period until the age limit for military service, as well as for an indefinite period (until the age limit for military service);
Those. the terms of the contract are determined by law and it is not supposed to be possible to conclude it for a longer period than established by the Regulations
Accordingly, it ends upon the expiration of the period for which it was concluded.
i.e. when this bill is passed, will I be offered to renew the contract?
No, they won't. Just at the end of the current contract, it is up to you to decide whether you will continue to do military service in the future, until you reach the required length of service, from which the right to retire or quit the service arises due to the expiration of the contract.
it will be oshm?
No, this will not be an OSHM, since you continue to serve on these terms and in the position in which the contract was concluded.
how can you use it?
Just take it for granted - either continue serving or not.
True, it is worth considering how long the length of service you will have in 2018?
If we allow the possibility of adopting the bill in the following edition - http://militariorg.ucoz.ru/pub...
then, based on the content of Art. 3
Upon dismissal from military service and other types of federal public service before January 1, 2019 for persons subject to the law Russian Federation dated February 12, 1993 No. 4468-1 "On pension provision persons who have served in the military, served in the internal affairs bodies, the State Fire Service, bodies for the control of the circulation of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances, institutions and bodies of the penitentiary system, and their families, the right to retire for years of service and to receive a pension for years of service is retained under the conditions that were in force before the entry into force present federal law by virtue of.
Thus, the project provides for another year for a transitional period, allowing for the possibility of dismissal under the current conditions with the right to receive a pension.
Thus, if by January 1, 2019 you have 20 years of service, then you are dismissed with the right to retire in the same manner and under the same conditions.
The departments that provide for military service have developed a bill to increase the lower limit of seniority, giving the right to receive military pension, from 20 to 25 years. Relevant work has been carried out since March by decision of President Vladimir Putin. The authors of the project believe that this decision will relieve the budget of several hundred billion rubles annually. A number of experts say that raising the minimum length of service will not make military service more attractive. But cutting federal spending on military pensions would to the white house greater freedom in deciding the question of early retirement, and in raising the retirement age, Kommersant reports http://kommersant.ru/doc/3325573.
On the development of the draft law “On Amendments to the Law of the Russian Federation of February 12, 1993 No. 4468-1 “On pensions for persons who have served in the military, served in the internal affairs bodies, the state fire service, bodies for controlling the circulation of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances, institutions and bodies of the criminal correctional system, the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops, and their families,” said a source close to the leadership of one of the law enforcement agencies. Then this was confirmed by the interlocutor in the Ministry of Defense.
So, according to him, on May 22, the head of the main personnel department of the Ministry of Defense, General Viktor Goremykin, reported on the preparation of documents by the Deputy Minister of Defense to General Dmitry Bulgakov (letter No. 173/2/15025). This work was carried out as part of the implementation of Vladimir Putin's decision No. Pr-497 of March 17, a senior official of the presidential administration confirms, representatives of all departments related to military service were involved in it. “The topic is very delicate, there are still a number of consultations at the level of the financial, economic and social blocs of the government, as well as all interested parties,” he says. The departments interviewed either declined to comment or did not respond to requests. It was not possible to contact the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov. Prime Minister's press secretary Natalya Timakova refrained from commenting.
The idea of raising the lower limit of seniority has been discussed for a long time, but the matter has never reached a final decision. Back in 2013, the military proposed a similar maneuver, which was proposed to be divided into two stages. Until January 1, 2019, all military personnel who served for more than 20 years but did not retire were planned to receive an increase of 25% of the amount of the pension that they could receive. And from 2019, to finally fix the lower limit of seniority at 25 years. However, calculations have shown that the federal budget will not cope with all the additional payments required for the transition period. In 2015, the discussion was resumed by Finance Minister Anton Siluanov. “The military, I believe, can also extend the length of service, allowing them to retire,” he said. “Look, we have 1 million healthy young men working as security guards, not to mention a significant number of security forces. Each barrier has a guard and guards it. Often the military, having served 20 years, become pensioners at the age of 40.
In the financial and economic bloc, the government considered it acceptable to increase the term of service, which gives the right to a military pension, to 30 years, but this option was rejected. Recall that at the same time, the unstable economic situation called into question the indexation of allowances for military personnel, as a result of which the Ministry of Finance wanted to abandon the revision in the direction of increasing the amount of payments to military pensioners.
Vladimir Putin intervened in the situation, after which Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Anton Siluanov settled all issues by finding additional funds.
According to Kommersant's information, the current version of the bill provides for an increase in the lower limit of seniority from 20 to 25 years. This will require amendments to two articles: 13th (conditions determining the right to a pension for years of service) and 14th (pension amounts). The interlocutors do not name the proposed terms for the adoption of the amendments, but note that it is logical to do this after the 2018 presidential election.
The authors of the project do not disclose the scheme for increasing the lower limit of seniority: it is not yet clear whether a transition period will be introduced and, if so, how much it will cost the budget. It is only known that the innovation will not affect those whose contract ends at 20 years of service. Everyone else will have to serve five years more to receive a military pension. Vasily Zatsepin, head of the laboratory of military economics at the Gaidar Institute for Economic Policy, notes that the implementation of the project will not increase the attractiveness of military service and, most likely, the number of those wishing to serve will decrease.
Doctor of Economic Sciences Sergey Smirnov notes that the initiative is in line with the policy of optimizing budget spending. “Increasing the lower limit of length of service, which gives the right to receive a military pension, is one of the elements of the new system,” the expert says, recalling that government officials have recently been affected by such changes. This version is confirmed by a high-ranking official of the government apparatus: “We started with civil servants, and the military became a natural continuation of our consistent work.” Sources in the financial and economic block of the government claim that the risks of a negative reaction from military personnel exist and they are very high, but at the final stage, such a change in the law will allow saving several hundred billion rubles a year, greatly unloading the budget. “This knot needs to be untied somehow,” says one of the interlocutors.
Directly adopted, as it turns out, back in March 2017 and previously unpublished decision of Vladimir Putin, which can be considered “raising the retirement age for military pensioners,” is not related to the discussion about the general increase in the retirement age. There are two fundamental positions in the authorities in this matter. The first (represented, in particular, in the developments of the Center for Strategic Research under the leadership of Alexei Kudrin) is that it is necessary to raise the retirement age. The second (associated with the position of the Ministry of Labor and the White House social bloc in general) is the reform of the system of early pensions, to which up to a third of the population of the Russian Federation are entitled, will either cancel the general increase in the retirement age, or delay the decision, or make the schedule for raising the retirement age smoother. .
The price of the issue in the case of early pensions is about 350-400 billion rubles. per year and is comparable in order of magnitude with the upcoming savings on payments to military pensioners - these payments are made from the federal budget, like the transfer Pension fund to cover the deficit. The Ministry of Finance insisted on the decision to reduce the cost of military pensions, whose position on the “civilian” retirement age is quite tough: the head of the department, Anton Siluanov, has repeatedly stated the urgent need to raise the age. But cuts in federal spending on military pensions, which have nothing to do with the Pension Fund, at the same time give the White House more freedom both in deciding on early pensions and in raising the retirement age.
The majority of citizens would like to retire at the age of 56.8, according to the VTsIOM survey (the last one was conducted in January 2015). It should be noted that this is close to the real average term for retirement in the Russian Federation - early or within the period established by law. The average age at which workers would like to go on vacation varies, it is the lowest among those aged 18–24 (55.8 years) and the highest among those aged 35–44 (58.8 years). Support for the retirement age in connection with the "increase in life expectancy" say 7% of respondents, 8% "rather support" the initiative. 62% do not support raising the retirement age, and 16% “rather do not support it,” follows from the same VTsIOM survey. The level of support is highest among respondents aged 18–24 and 25–34.
Vladimir Petukhov, head of the Center for Comprehensive Social Research at the Institute of Sociology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believes that "officials will be happy to speak out in favor of raising the retirement age, in particular, leading cadres who sit in a warm office." “I think it extends to the military partly,” he says. Mr. Petukhov suggests that the military without a “civilian” profession, which will provide work in case of early retirement, can also support the initiative.
Starting from 2019, the law on raising the retirement age for the military is expected to come into force. Now, in order to retire on a seniority basis, you need to serve twenty-five years instead of twenty.
What kind of pension do the military receive now
It was planned several times to increase the service life of servicemen, but the plans remained plans. It can be seen that many “civilians” are worried about those who have served twenty years and according to the law, with a calm soul, retire, and they, civilians, still have to work and work. For example, a twenty-year-old boy or girl went to serve under a contract. At forty, he/she becomes "young" pensioners.
However, the same civilians forget that a soldier does not sit in one place in the garrison. They can be sent to a hot spot at any time and there is no guarantee that he will return from there safe and sound. And rises on alarm at night, and constant moving from garrison to garrison. No home, no property. After all, who is the first to defend the Motherland in the event of an attack? Military. And for honest service for twenty years, say, a major will receive a maximum of 17 thousand rubles of pension, and a sergeant only ten thousand.
However, the military is waiting for a pension, as it promises at least some stability. After all, after being discharged from the ranks of the armed forces, they can at least get an apartment and finally settle in one place.
What will the increase in the retirement age of military personnel mean?
Now, the government has decided to at least slightly eliminate the “unfairly early” retirement age and increase the term of military service by another five years. The bill was developed by the Main Directorate of Personnel of the Armed Forces. The relevant law has already been signed by President Vladimir Putin and will come into force next year.
Under the new rules, even if you have served twenty-four years, it is still too early for you to retire. Please serve another year, then please. And you will also receive an apartment only after twenty-five years of service, and not after twenty.
But these changes are unlikely to improve life for the military itself. If earlier the same major served his due date at the age of twenty, got an apartment and a tiny but honestly earned pension and could continue to live in peace. Now he can easily be fired a year before the prescribed twenty-five years without the right to a pension and housing.
It also remains an open question what to expect for those who, at the time of the adoption of the law, have already served twenty or more years. Will they retain their right to a pension or not and do they need to sign a new contract, according to the new rules?
It turns out that this is a law with many unknowns.
A draft law providing for an increase from 20 to 25 years of service required for the appointment of a military pension turned out to be agreed upon by the departments that provide for military service. At the same time, it differs significantly from the bill that we wrote about in our June 15, 2017 and which was prepared by our military lawyers. Most importantly, it is assumed that this bill will be submitted to the State Duma this autumn and should come into force on January 1, 2018, and not on January 1, 2019, as previously proposed. However, the bill itself provides for a transitional period until January 1, 2023, during which military personnel with 20 years of service or more will be able to retire from military service with the right to receive a military pension under the same conditions. In addition, it is assumed that in the event of the dismissal of a serviceman on one of the so-called "preferential" grounds (reaching the age limit for military service, health status, organizational and staffing measures, as well as dismissal from military service due to non-fulfillment of the terms of the contract by Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (another federal executive body in which the law provides for military service), if he has 20 years of service or more, a pension will be assigned under the same conditions that are currently in force.The new bill provides that minimum size pensions for 25 years of service will be 65% of the corresponding amounts of monetary allowance taken into account for the appointment of a military pension (salary according to military rank, salary according to position (official salary) and percentage bonus for length of service), and the maximum - 95% of the specified amounts of monetary allowance. In this bill, unlike what was promulgated earlier, there is no rule providing for an increase in the amount of the specified allowance for length of service paid to military personnel and which is taken into account when assigning a military pension, it is not reported, apparently due to lack of money in the budget, to do this no longer planned. Some media reported that such a maneuver would give a respite to the federal budget, as it would allow several billion rubles to be released for some time, which is very important in the difficult economic conditions in which our state finds itself.
At the same time, Kommersant reports that, according to information from his source close to the presidential administration, "a fundamental decision to raise the lower limit of seniority for military personnel has been made." Thus, it can be assumed with a high degree of probability that the minimum length of service required for the appointment of a military pension will still be increased in the near foreseeable future from 20 to 25 years.
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To this end, many reforms have been carried out in the Ministry of the Interior in recent years.
Employees are offered a variety of benefits, as well as constantly increasing wages and pensions.
A number of changes are planned for 2020. The reform of the industry will continue in the next year, 2020.
One of the key changes, which should come into force in 2020, is an increase in the length of service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs to 25 years. Such a bill has been prepared for quite some time, and its final adoption is planned for next year.
What you need to know
The latest news about an increase in service life to 25 years only confirms last year's rumors - the bill is likely to be passed. The future increase is directly related to the growth of salaries and other types of benefits for employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
The ministry's financial resources have their limits. Most of the budget of 400 billion rubles goes specifically to pay salaries to employees.
As a result, very little money is left for other important purposes. Because of this, not as often as we would like, there is an update of equipment, training of employees, and an increase in the level of the material base.
Another reason is the reduction in the number of law enforcement officers. The number of employees of the ministry will decrease every year, and the length of service and wages will increase. This should become an impetus for increasing the professionalism and technical literacy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs employees.
And although it is planned to reduce spending on the Ministry of Internal Affairs, this will in no way affect the size of the pension of former employees of the ministry. Changes should occur in most structural divisions of the police.
Reasons for the increase
Changes in the number of years of service have been planned for quite some time. In 2020, their application was not yet possible, which is why the reform was postponed to 2020. A bill had already been prepared by officials, after which government approval should follow, but it was never received.
Employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs have a large number of benefits, receive financial assistance, and have the opportunity to retire ahead of time. All this makes the profession very attractive, which is the reason for the increase in those wishing to serve in the police.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation does not have sufficient funds to provide fixed financial expenses. Because of this, inflows of new funds from the state budget are required, because wages and pensions still need to be paid.
In order to be able to update equipment and conduct training for employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it was decided to increase the length of service. This will help reduce the cost of the ministry, but will not affect the payment of salaries or pensions in any way.
Will there be an increase in service life
It is not the first year that the law enforcement agencies are being reformed in Russia. In addition to increasing the service life in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, a number of other changes are planned. It is assumed that the federal body that exercises control over the execution of sentences - the Federal Penitentiary Service - will be included in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
In its essence, such a reform is very reminiscent of the events that took place back in the 1990s, under Yeltsin's presidency. Such an association has both positive and negative sides.
It is believed that this will lead to a large reduction in staff and even the elimination of entire departments and positions. How effective this will be is for the government to judge.
In 2020, after the increase in the length of service, there are no plans for a global increase in wages and pensions. According to the results of inflation forecasts, the indexation of allowances will be carried out. In 2020, the government allocated 84 billion rubles for these purposes.
If in 2020 indexation was carried out from January 1, then in 2020 this period was moved quite a lot - the earnings of employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be increased only from October 1.
For employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
The seniority threshold was to be raised in 2013. A few years later, officials proposed to make the length of service 30 years, but such a proposal was not supported.
Delays in making a decision forced the president to intervene in this matter. After that, a number of amendments to the law were developed, but the bill was never considered by the government. It is believed that the reason for this was the increase in the general retirement age.
Today, in order to retire, a soldier must have a work experience of 20 years. After taking a well-deserved vacation, an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs received a pension in the amount of 50 percent of the monetary allowance. An annual pension supplement of 3% was also supposed, but the maximum number could not exceed 85% of the wages received by the military.
The draft law, which is scheduled to be adopted in 2020, provides for retirement after 25 years of service and a pension of 65% of the salary.
For each year above, there will be an increase in the military pension by 3%, but its maximum amount cannot exceed 95% of the salary of an employee.
Dismissal from the armed forces may occur for one of the following reasons:
- reaching the age limit for serving in the Ministry of Internal Affairs;
- an illness that prevents you from continuing to serve;
- measures to organize the state (including reductions).
As a result of retirement on such grounds, a citizen will receive a pension in the amount of 50% of the allowance if he has 20 years of service. For each additional year there will be 3%, but the total cannot exceed 95%.
For the military
The increase in the required length of service will also affect military personnel. Assignment of pensions to them will take place on the same conditions as to employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
The norms of the bill provide for a transitional period until 2023, during which the military will have the opportunity to quit on the same terms.
The law provides for appointments minimum pension in the amount of 65% of the salary, and the maximum - 95%. Also in this bill there is no rule on allowances for long service. It is assumed that it is simply not provided for, due to the lack of necessary funds in the budget of the department.
The amount of pensions
Military pensions are calculated according to a special principle. The basis for the calculation are payments, salary in accordance with the position or military rank, as well as increments for length of service, etc. All these factors become the basis for calculating pensions for military personnel.
Military pensions are on average:
In addition, military pension holders are entitled to receive a second payment - civil pension. To do this, the serviceman must have an appropriate length of service in a civilian position.
Possible timing of the adoption of the law
Today, it is still not clear when exactly the law will be adopted. What is clear is that the new norms will no longer be in effect in 2020, but will most likely be adopted in 2020.
It is also assumed that a transitional phase will be in place until 2023. This is an urgently needed measure that will help military personnel adjust to the new exit rules.
According to the sources of Kommersant, the approval of the bill between the departments has already been completed. All fundamental issues have been resolved, and the final decision has been made, so the likelihood of a law being passed in the coming months is very high.
Back in 2017, many media outlets claimed that the adoption of the law was being postponed until after the presidential election, and it did.
According to opinion polls, almost 80 percent of citizens do not support changes to increase the length of service for military personnel. This means that the increase in the required seniority will not go smoothly and peacefully - for people it will be a painful process.
Military personnel and their families will not want to quietly watch as their a large number of benefits and increase the time of difficult service.
What will happen next
There are a lot of reasons for raising the threshold of service and they are quite justified - the state is in a difficult economic situation, so even saving several billion rubles will help pay pensions and salaries in other industries.
Such a department as the Ministry of Internal Affairs has more than 15 million employees, and this number is constantly increasing. Service in the authorities provides for the appointment of various benefits and other bonuses, which only increases the popularity of this profession among young people.
All this entails large financial expenditures on the part of the state. In order to reduce them, it is planned to raise the length of service by 5 years - up to 25. In addition, it is planned to raise the threshold for the minimum and maximum pensions for military personnel.
The increase in years of service will affect not only the police and the military - the length of service will increase for firefighters and other employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. At the moment, no information has yet been received regarding an increase in the age of pensioners, but this issue also needs to be resolved for a very long time.
In addition, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will not lose the right to receive a second, civil pension. To do this, they will need to reach a certain age (55 and 60 years for women and men, respectively) and have at least 8 years of experience in civilian work. It is believed that this threshold will also be gradually increased, and by 2024 it will reach 15 years.
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