Is a military pension converted to a civil one? Military pensioners for Russia and its armed forces

It was suspended by the Federal Law of December 1, 2014 (397-FZ) and adopted in the context of an undeclared war by the United States and NATO against Russia, falling oil prices and budget revenues. In a crisis, when it comes to preserving the country's economy, implementing important social programs, re-equipping the army and navy, the need to develop new territories of the country and support the population of Novorossia - all this is understandable and justified. That is why people in uniform, as well as military pensioners, I repeat, reacted to this decision with understanding. After all, even in these difficult conditions, the state found opportunities to continue solving housing issues for military personnel, building service and permanent housing, paying housing subsidies, etc.

How to refuse a military pension and switch to a civilian one

If the performance of military service is contrary to the beliefs or religion of a citizen, he has the right to replace it with an alternative civilian service. Replacing military service with alternative civilian service is also allowed in other cases established by law.

3 art. 59 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation). - military service is contrary to his beliefs or religion (beliefs can be any - peacekeeping, philosophical, moral, ethical, political, legal, or have complementary content); - a citizen belongs to an indigenous small people, leads a traditional way of life, traditional management and is engaged in traditional crafts (Article 2 of the Law of July 25, 2002 N 113-FZ)

Second pension for military personnel

In order for the employer's insurance contributions while working in civilian institutions to be taken into account when assigning a second pension, a military pensioner must be registered in the compulsory pension insurance system. Information about civil service, accrued and paid insurance premiums, wages, as well as periods of work in civil organizations are reflected in an individual personal account with the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation and will determine the right to an insurance pension and possible payment from pension savings.

The number of this account is indicated on the insurance certificate of compulsory pension insurance - SNILS.

On the transition from one type of pension to another, on the nuances of recalculating pensions for different categories of pensioners, and not only

Am I entitled to a recalculation of my pension since March marks two years since the last recalculation? For what periods will my salary be taken into account in the new recalculation? If the insured person continued to work after the award of the pension, he has the right to recalculate the pension. However, you should be aware that it is made taking into account at least 24 months of insurance experience after the appointment (previous recalculation) of the pension, regardless of breaks in work.

This is provided for by Article 42 of the Law of Ukraine

"On Compulsory State Pension Insurance"

Thus, if you have these 24 months of insurance experience, you are entitled to a pension recalculation.

Within 5 years - this means that the civil work experience (not included in the military pension) required to receive a second pension must be at least 5 years.

Officially, for 5 years, this means that for at least 5 years the employer has monthly transferred insurance premiums to the individual personal account of a citizen in the system of compulsory pension insurance. Passport. Insurance certificate of state pension insurance.

Pension certificate plus its photocopy.

The work book plus its photocopy (for working pensioners, on the last page of the copy of the work book, the entry of the personnel department “Works to the present time”, the date, the signature of the person in charge with a transcript and the seal of the organization is required).

Who can count on a double pension?

- If a military pensioner has reached retirement age and his seniority in a “civilian” is at least 6 years (gradually, the requirements for seniority will increase - up to 15 years in 2024), then in addition to a military pension for long service (or disability), he has the right to receive the insurance part of the labor pension.

Its size depends on the contributions that were paid to the Pension Fund. By the way, you have the right to completely abandon the pension for years of service and completely switch to insurance.

But today it is better not to do this. When converting military experience into civilian experience, you will lose money.

It is more profitable to receive two pensions at once.

• military: for long service and insurance
• disabled people, participants of the Great Patriotic War, residents of besieged Leningrad: insurance and disability
• parents of military personnel who died while serving on conscription; widows of such military personnel, provided that they have not remarried: insurance or social and survivor's pension.

Federal Law “On pensions for persons who have served in the military.

”, “On state pension provision.

Remote garrisons, frequent change of housing with accommodation in military camps make it difficult to find employment for officer wives. In such conditions, there is nothing reprehensible to ask how to retire the husband of a military pensioner after his death. Without having, for objective reasons, a long work experience, the wife of an officer or midshipman relies on her husband's pension. The death of the only breadwinner significantly worsens the financial situation of the widow. Understanding the severity of the problem, the state, as far as possible, is trying to make life easier for the widows of military pensioners at the legislative level, in particular, it provides an opportunity, after the death of a husband, to receive pension money intended for a spouse after being transferred to the reserve.

The spouse of a deceased or deceased soldier can choose the following types of pension payments that are suitable:

• old-age pension is rare, but there are situations in which the wife of an officer has worked constantly and acquired a long seniority. Switching to a pension for a deceased husband is not economically feasible;
• survivor's pension - the country's involvement in local conflicts increases the risk of premature death of soldiers and officers. When the husband dies, the wife can receive the specified pension due to the inability to engage in labor activities for one reason or another. However, the legislation stipulates monthly cash payments in respect of children whose parents died in the line of military duty. Money is stopped being paid after reaching the age of majority, or after 23 years if the child is studying at a higher educational institution;
• husband's military pension - until the expiration of five years from the time the pension was stopped by the husband - a military pensioner upon reaching retirement age or she has a certain degree of disability.

The state pays pensions to the wives of dead military pensioners who are raising children under the age of fourteen without officially working anywhere. How to properly retire the husband of a military pensioner after his death will help knowledge of the laws.

The legislative framework

The main legislative act regulating the provision of pensions for military personnel and their families is the Law of the Russian Federation of February 12, 1992 No. 4468-1 with the latest amendments and changes. In addition to the military, the law applies to employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the State. drug control, penal system, nat. guards. Article 28 indicates under what circumstances family members may receive a military pension for the loss of a breadwinner:

• a serviceman dies while performing his duties while on duty;
• retired to the reserve, dies from illness or wounds acquired in the service;
• dies from injuries received during the performance of duty, after the registration of military pensions;
• the serviceman had the status of a prisoner of war or was declared missing,

When the wife of a military pensioner is unable to support herself and children due to disability, is not able to earn an income or work while caring for young children, then she has the right, under Art. 10 FZ 400, apply for a military survivor's pension. Article 5 of the Federal Law No. 4468-1 equalizes the rights of recipients of pensions of deceased pensioners with families who are on pensions in the event of the loss of a breadwinner who died in the course of official activities.

A woman with an IPC of 30 points, more than 15 years of work experience, according to Art. 8 of the Federal Law No. 400, an old-age labor pension is due.

Survivors' pensions

Service in the RF Armed Forces increases the risk of premature death for servicemen of any kind of service. Therefore, you should know in which cases a pension is calculated for the widow of a military pensioner. Woman, according to Art. 10 of the Federal Law No. 400, may receive a financial allowance in the following cases:

• is dependent, disabled due to disability;
• is not disabled and able to work, but is raising minor children;
• loses his ability to work some time after the death of his spouse, and does not have the opportunity for a normal existence.

When remarrying, a woman continues to receive child benefits from her ex-deceased husband until adulthood. This norm is connected with the fact that the new husband is not obliged by law to financially support children not conceived in this marriage.

Double pension

Legislative norms provide for the widow of a deceased military pensioner to receive one pension of her choice. However, there are exceptions. Article 7 of the Federal Law of the Russian Federation No. 4468-1 allows the widow of a military pensioner to receive an additional pension if the deceased husband was disabled due to acquired diseases or injuries, injuries while protecting the interests of the state. A woman will be able to receive, in addition to her pension (social, labor, disability), additional financial support. The legal norm ceases to be valid if the woman remarries.

Registration procedure

After the death of a military pensioner, no one will automatically transfer his pension to the widow. To receive the cash payments laid down by law, it is necessary to collect a package of documents. You also need to decide, based on the circumstances, with the type of pension that you should apply for - a military pension or for the loss of a breadwinner. The conditions under which the payments of a particular pension are made differ from each other. Many nuances are taken into account: the circumstances of the death or death of the husband, their own labor activity, the presence and number of children, the length of service of the spouse and much more.

It should be borne in mind that the structural divisions of the Ministry of Defense are in charge of issues of pensions for military personnel. Therefore, if a military pensioner has died, a widowed woman should first contact the local military registration and enlistment office for registration. Then, write an application, of the established form, to the PF department at the place of residence, attaching the required documents.

Documentation

It should be borne in mind that the bureaucratic system in any state requires the provision of all documents and certificates specified by law. Therefore, it is necessary to carefully collect the required documents, the list of which is approved by the Order of the Ministry of Labor and Social Development of the Russian Federation No. 958n dated November 28, 2014:

• certificates - about the death of a spouse, about marriage, about the birth of children, including persons of minor age;
• certificates - about the income, family composition, disability of the applicant, about the term of service of the deceased or deceased serviceman;
• a copy of the passport;
• a document confirming the receipt or absence of a pension.

To receive a military pension of a deceased spouse, women should be patient. The process can take months.

Terms of consideration of the application

Legislators have set a time frame for a positive or negative response to a submitted application. If the provided package of documents contains exhaustive information, in this case the application is considered within 10 days. As a rule, rarely anyone manages to fully collect the necessary documents the first time. When adding missing certificates or certificates, the consideration period is postponed by 10 days.

Payout amount

The amount of pensions for the widows of military personnel for the loss of a breadwinner is determined by Article No. 36 of the Federal Law No. 4468-1. According to this article, payments are made in the amount of:

• 40% of the monetary allowance of the deceased spouse, if the accident that led to disability occurred outside the service;
• The widow receives 50% of the monetary allowance if the deceased husband received a disability due to illness or injury during the service.

The pension provision of a military pensioner is calculated on the basis of additional payments for length of service, official salaries and amounts paid for military rank. The wives of the dead servicemen who served urgently will be able to count on monthly financial support:

• 150% of the social pension if the death occurred due to an illness caught during the period of the “term”;
• 200% of the social pension if the husband died in the line of duty from injuries incompatible with life.

Pensions are paid permanently after reaching retirement age. During the period of incapacity for work - before gaining the ability to work.

Receiving pensions

The Pension Fund offers several options for receiving pension support. If the issue of receiving the pension of the deceased husband of the pensioner is positively resolved, the method of delivery is negotiated separately. This can be an accrual to an open current account, delivery by Russian Post to your home or receipt at the nearest post office. The most convenient way for infirm pensioners is free home delivery. This function is carried out by the social protection authorities. For active pensioners, it is most convenient to transfer pensions to a bank card.

Burial allowance

The state not only takes care of pensions for the widows of deceased military pensioners. A lot of public funds are spent on the burial of a deceased citizen. If relatives bury with their own money, then they are entitled to compensation for the amount spent. In different regions, it ranges from 6 to 11 thousand rubles. The funeral can be carried out entirely at the expense of the state by specialized funeral services. It is important to apply for social benefits for burial no later than six months from the date of burial. Otherwise, no partial refund will be made.

The PF of Russia is a serious structure, requiring the literal execution of the norms and rules prescribed by law. It is good if the documents for receiving pensions are in perfect order. However, this does not always happen. Therefore, it is necessary to first consult with experienced lawyers who will help you understand the intricacies of pension legislation.

Against the backdrop of a heated debate in society about the upcoming increase in the retirement age of Russians, there are more and more rumors about the upcoming reform for military pensioners. Several versions are being considered - from a serious increase in the retirement age to the replacement of a military pension with a one-time payment.
The pension reform for military personnel is being developed by the Research Financial Institute, subordinate to the Ministry of Finance.

For the security forces, changes are proposed that, without any exaggeration, can be called radical. Instead of paying superannuation pensions, those who are laid off may be offered… a lump sum social payment. The amount of this payment is unknown. Retirees are offered to appoint pensions, like other citizens, after reaching retirement age. According to experts, if the proposal is accepted, the military will practically lose their main benefits.

The military was offered to switch to self-sufficiency
The developers of the reform believe that the skills acquired in the service will help former servicemen quickly find a decent, well-paid job and switch to self-sufficiency. However, according to experts, the ability of the military to adapt to civilian life after service is clearly exaggerated. Not every officer continues to work after being transferred to the reserve. And the point is not only unwillingness - some of them cannot work for health reasons. According to the developers of the reform, the main goal is to make the social package for a serviceman more targeted, taking into account the possibility and desire of the retiree to start a civilian career, and also more fully taking into account the financial situation of his family. A good severance pay will be especially attractive to those who leave the military at a relatively young age and decide to pursue a civilian career. This does not take into account the risks that young and promising officers will quit at the first opportunity, which will lead to staff turnover in the troops.

The idea of ​​pension reform is also questionable because it is proposed to compensate only a small part of the pension, while nothing else shines in return. By the way, we recall that the state even now encourages military pensioners not to sit idly by after dismissal. Those who continue to work after entering the reserve are entitled to a civil pension, which becomes additional to the military one. It is paid through the Pension Fund of Russia upon reaching the state-established retirement age and the minimum required length of service, which in 2017 was eight years and will increase by one year to 15 years by 2024. The budget savings from the reform of the military pension system could amount to 500-700 billion rubles a year. Therefore, many experts are confident that due to the difficult economic situation, changes in the calculation of military pensions may occur as early as 2018.

It should be noted that now a military pension is assigned to servicemen who, on the day of dismissal, have served in law enforcement agencies for 20 years or more. In addition, those dismissed upon reaching the age limit, for health reasons or in connection with organizational and staff measures and who have reached the age of 45 on the day of dismissal can count on it. To do this, you need to have a total work experience of more than 25 years, of which at least 12 years and 6 months is service in law enforcement agencies. The average pension for military pensioners ranges from 20,000 to 30,000 rubles.

Today, it turns out that in the period of time from 45 years old, when servicemen mostly retire, to 60 years old, when they are entitled to a regular pension, the average serviceman receives about 5 million rubles. It turns out that the one-time payment proposed by the reform project should be approximately the same amount, which is very doubtful.

The government has been receiving proposals to reform the pension system for military personnel for several years. There were both hard and soft options, but they were abandoned. Probably, this time too there will be no special changes and cosmetic changes will be carried out. It is possible that the length of service for receiving a pension will be increased, most likely from 20 to 25 years. It should be noted that the fulfillment of obligations to military pensioners is indeed a serious financial burden for the state today. And here you can save a lot of money. To do this, it is necessary to clearly define who is a military pensioner and who is not. According to the Ministry of Defense, in 2015 there were about 900 thousand pensioners in the military department. At the same time, the number of military pensioners of all power structures is approaching somewhere around 10-12 million. So it is necessary to more clearly define in the law who is a military pensioner, and this will solve the problem with military pensions.

The abolition of military pensions will lead to a social explosion The current Russian scheme, when a military pension is assigned immediately upon dismissal from the Armed Forces with a certain length of service, but without reference to the age of a soldier, is not common in other armies of the world. But the severance pay scheme does not apply there either. At the same time, according to preliminary calculations, after such a reform, budget savings could amount to 500-700 billion rubles a year. Therefore, many experts are confident that due to the difficult economic situation, changes in the calculation of military pensions may occur as early as 2018. Opinions on the methods of reforming the military pension system were diametrically divided. According to some, the retirement of the military in 2018 will be no different from previous years - the accrual procedure, as well as other important points, will remain the same.

Indeed, the official position of the state on the issue of pension formation remains unchanged at the moment. It should be noted that recently the talks about changes in the pension sphere remain just talks - no laws on this issue have been adopted in recent years. There are also opinions that although the reform of the military pension is inevitable, it certainly will not take place simultaneously with the increase in the retirement age: this will create the prerequisites for a social explosion. Therefore, the decision on the retirement age for military pensioners may be postponed for several years, until the bulk of the population gets used to the new retirement age. At the same time, only future pensioners will fall under the reform, while those who already receive a pension will not be affected by the changes. Experts were skeptical about the latest proposals to reform the military pension, but admit that changes cannot be avoided. The military budget today is focused exclusively on the rearmament of the army, and the state is looking for how to find additional resources.

Money is easiest to take from military pensioners.
The process of cutting benefits can be slowed down only because other law enforcement agencies are also interested in maintaining military pensions. After all, the pension reform concerns not only military personnel, but also law enforcement officers, bodies of the penitentiary system, security and foreign intelligence services, fire departments, as well as investigators, prosecutors, etc. These law enforcement agencies individually, and even more so in total, have considerable weight and they will certainly connect a powerful administrative resource to save pensions. However, it is most likely that it will not be possible to fully preserve the current conditions of their appointment. The complete abolition of pensions for the military is, of course, a very extreme option; a certain compromise will probably be found, as a result, a balanced decision will be made, which will be able to find understanding among the employees and leadership of all law enforcement agencies.

BY THE WAY The economy cannot be deceived; in practice, the situation of military pensioners is already deteriorating every year due to the freezing of indexation of pensions. It is this indicator that is the most important condition for ensuring a normal standard of living for people. But due to the financial crisis, the authorities cannot offer serious raises to retired military men. Only at the beginning of 2018, the government decided that military pensions should be increased by 4%. However, a further increase will have to wait a long time. The next one is scheduled for October 2019. After that, retired employees will have to wait another year before the next promotion. Each of the planned revisions should increase the size of the military pension by 4%.

Colonels Viktor Baranets and Mikhail Timoshenko are discussing on the air of the Military Review program on Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda
Will military pensions be canceled in 2018?

Military revue. Will military pensions be canceled in 2018? Colonels Viktor Baranets and Mikhail Timoshenko talk on the air of the Military Review program

The military may be deprived of pensions
budget crisis, civil pensions, military pensions, reform, Ministry of Finance Head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu most likely will not support the innovations of Anton Siluanov's department. Photo PhotoXPress.ru

The budget crisis is pushing officials to abolish the so-called military pensions, which are received by employees of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the FSB and other law enforcement agencies. Following the reform of civil pensions, the logic of the crisis leads the economic bloc of the government to reduce the pensions of the security forces. The current military pensioners can sleep peacefully: there are no plans to cancel their pensions. But the current security forces may in the future receive only a one-time severance pay instead of a lifetime pension - to adapt to work in civilian life. Such a decision is already being discussed in the structures of the Ministry of Finance.

The Research Financial Institute (NIFI), subordinate to the Ministry of Finance, is preparing a rationale for a new pension reform. Now security officials can become victims of optimization. This can be judged from the public speeches of the director of the NIFI Vladimir Nazarov. In his opinion, military pensions should be reviewed. And, apparently, quite radically. Nazarov spoke about some of the details last week on the air of Ekho Moskvy.

“Those who are going to retire on a military pension should be offered a normal social contract instead of a pension,” the economist explained. - When a person finishes military service, if he is not disabled and everything is in order, you need to give him money for retraining, give him a large severance pay so that he has enough for a year or two of a comfortable life, and after that he, quite like a normal member of society, can work at another job.

No matter how strange the ideas discussed at the NIFI may seem, they are worth listening to. After all, as indicated on the website of the Ministry of Finance, among the tasks and functions of this institution are the development of the theory and methodology of financial management, forecasting, planning, drafting and executing the federal budget, preparing proposals and recommendations for improving budget legislation. In other words, the NIFI's developments in the form of a draft law can be put on the table of the head of the Ministry of Finance, Anton Siluanov. And he, with all the calculations and justifications in his hands, can then start lobbying for the next optimization.

If we understand by military pensions the payments that are received not only by military personnel, but also by other security officials (law enforcement officers and bodies of the penitentiary system, security and foreign intelligence services, fire departments, etc.), as well as investigators and prosecutors, then after the reform, the budget savings can amount, according to rough estimates, from 500 to 700 billion rubles. in year. But there are also more modest expert estimates of savings - about 200 billion rubles. in year. As long as the reform has not acquired concrete outlines, it is impossible to make more accurate calculations.

However, even now it is not easy to get a military pension. She is appointed on the basis of years of service. The right to a military pension is received by persons who, on the day of dismissal, have served in law enforcement agencies for 20 years or more; as well as persons dismissed upon reaching the age limit, for health reasons or in connection with organizational and staff measures and who have reached the age of 45 on the day of dismissal, having a total length of service of 25 calendar years or more, of which at least 12 years and six months is service in law enforcement agencies.

Quite often security officials are fired before reaching the length of service required for a pension. There are cases when a citizen finds out about his non-compliance with pension requirements after his dismissal. Such underserved ones can only count on maintaining the payment of a salary for a military rank for one year. Or a disability pension.

It seems that the Ministry of Finance's reform of military pensions may abolish the very concept of "length of service." Most of the experts interviewed by NG were skeptical about the innovations of the scientific structures of the Ministry of Finance. In their opinion, the proposed reform looks provocative, moreover, it is almost unrealizable.

“This innovation will reduce the prestige of military service. And this is such a new word in world practice that the military of all countries will look at the actions of the Russian government with some dismay,” says Vasily Zatsepin, head of the military economics laboratory at the Gaidar Institute. “The revision of the conditions most likely cannot be avoided, but the complete abolition of pensions for the military is already a completely extreme option. Our law enforcement agencies have considerable weight, and they will certainly do a lot to save pensions,” says Nikita Isaev, director of the Institute of Actual Economics.

Every Russian officer still has a chance to serve up to a military pension. Photo from the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
In most developed countries, military pensioners are one of the most protected sections of the population, the expert recalls. One of the incentives to join the military is the guarantee of a stable income for many years. According to Isaev, it is not enough just to give a serviceman money for retraining: “In order for the retraining system to function effectively, it must be built from scratch. And this is not possible without additional funding. In conditions of chronic budget deficit, a vicious circle is obtained. There are obviously not enough vacancies for night watchmen for all the retirees.”

The proposed reform “will make people in uniform temporary workers who treat the state as another place of income,” fears Anton Sonichev, a lawyer for the Delovoy Farvater bureau. In his opinion, such changes will undermine the credibility of the state. “Resistance from law enforcement agencies will be very serious,” Sonichev expects.

“No one-time payment compares to regular income, especially with such lump-sum payments as now in Russia. This will lead to the infringement of social guarantees for military pensioners, since not everyone will be able to adapt to civilian life,” Roman Azatyan, legal adviser at My Family Lawyer, warns. “As practice shows, in Russia the opinion of the military departments is taken into account, and therefore they will be able to defend their positions,” he adds.

Many economists recall that the partial erosion of military pensions is already underway today. Military pensioners are still facing budget savings: when the authorities decide to freeze the indexation of their pensions, says Sergey Zvenigorodsky, an analyst at Solid Management. He emphasizes that the innovation of the theorists of the Ministry of Finance fully fits into the trend formed by the state: soon almost all civil pensions can go “into the category of symbolic benefits, on which, given inflationary expectations, it will be problematic to live,” the expert says. It is not for nothing that the government offers the population to ensure a decent old age by forming pension savings.

Although some experts see a healthy grain in the position of the head of NIFI. “The very idea of ​​retraining, regardless of the payment of pensions, is sound, since there are many people in the army with skills that will be very useful in working in large corporations and small businesses,” says Pavel Sigal, First Vice President of Opora Rossii. A large severance pay would be attractive "for those who leave the military at a relatively young age and decide to pursue a civilian career," he said.

Finally, some experts do not exclude that the arguments about the abolition of military pensions have a very specific political meaning. Perhaps this is a kind of preparation for the elections, Dmitry Lukashov, an analyst at IFC Markets, suggests: “First, a threat is created to cancel pensions and benefits, and then this threat is eliminated with the approval of voters.”

“So far, I personally do not know about any legislative initiatives in this area,” Nazarov later explained to NG. According to him, the budget spends almost 1% of GDP on all pensions for the security forces. “But we are not talking about, and cannot talk about, the abolition of military pensions. Servicemen who already receive a military pension will continue to receive it. This is a matter of social stability and justice. We can only talk about a gradual modification of the rules for the retirement of current military personnel: an increase in the length of service requirements and the use of combined age-length of service scales, when a longer length of service will allow you to retire earlier, taking into account the professional specialization and rank of a military man, ”says the head of the NIFI. “At the same time, there may be gaps between the period of transfer to the reserve and the appointment of a military pension. It is advisable to fill these gaps with severance pay and retraining programs with subsequent employment in a civilian specialty, Nazarov explains. - If the decision to change the conditions for assigning military pensions is balanced, then the attractiveness of military service will not decrease. Understanding that you serve the Motherland, high wages, as well as a guarantee that at a difficult moment society will come to the aid of the soldier himself and his family members, is much more important than “smearing porridge on a plate”, when all the military receive a pension, regardless of their age and income "in civilian life".

“I hope that a balanced solution can find understanding among the employees and leadership of all law enforcement agencies. The military are people, first of all, who care about the welfare of their country. Now this benefit is to make the social package of a serviceman more targeted, taking into account the possibility and desire of a serviceman to start a civilian career, as well as more fully taking into account the financial situation of servicemen and their families,” concludes Nazarov.

“In its pure form, the severance pay scheme is not used in most countries. However, the current Russian scheme is also not very common, when the appointment of a military pension occurs immediately upon dismissal from the armed forces with a certain length of service without any reference to the age of the serviceman, his ability to work in a civilian specialty and financial situation, ”Nazarov clarifies.

Military pensioners receiving a pension for long service or disability (as well as pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service and a number of other law enforcement agencies), in accordance with the law of the Russian Federation Law of February 12, 1993 No. service in the internal affairs bodies, ... "continuing to work in civilian institutions, subject to certain conditions, are entitled to a" civil "pension through the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation. This right was granted to them by the Federal Law of December 28, 2013 No. 400-FZ “On Insurance Pensions”.

In 2019, in accordance with the new procedure for the formation and calculation of pensions, military pensioners can be assigned a second pension through the Pension Fund of Russia, subject to the following conditions:

– reaching the generally established retirement age: in 2019 60.5 years for men and 55.5 years for women. It should be noted that the generally established retirement age will increase annually until, in 2028, the retirement age for men born in 1963 and women born in 1968 will be increased by 5 years - up to 60 years for women and 65 years for men. The increase in the generally established retirement age, provided for from October 3, 2018. More in the article: "". For certain categories of military pensioners, an old-age insurance pension is assigned before reaching the generally established retirement age, subject to the conditions for early appointment. For example, in the case of work in the North, or areas equated to them, labor in difficult conditions, etc.;

- the presence, not taken into account when assigning a pension through the power department. In 2019 it is 10 years and will increase annually by 1 year until reaching 15 years in 2024;

- the presence of a minimum amount of individual - in 2019 it is 16.2 points. The number of required points will increase annually, until reaching 30 points in 2025;

- the presence of an established pension for long service or disability through the power department.

When calculating the length of service required to acquire the right to a second (insurance) pension, the length of service does not include periods of work and (or) other activities taken into account when determining the amount of a pension that is already accrued. In this case, all periods that were counted in length of service are considered to be taken into account.

To assign an insurance pension, law enforcement agencies issue a certificate confirming the periods of military service (service), work and other activities taken into account when determining the amount of a pension for length of service or disability. These periods are not included in the length of service taken into account when assigning an insurance (civil) pension.

The requirements for the minimum length of service for the appointment of an insurance pension (9 years in 2018 + 1 year each subsequent year) raises a question for military pensioners who have worked in civilian life: if a man is now 59 years old and has seven years of civilian experience, then according to the new law, he and you won’t be able to earn the required seniority, since the requirements for seniority increase every year?

We explain that the required insurance period is determined on the date of reaching the generally established retirement age. That is, if, for example, a man turns 60.5 years old in 2019, the required length of service for him is “fixed” at the level set for 2019 - 10 years. When applying for a civil pension by this person next year, 2020, the required minimum experience for him will be not 11, but the same 10 years, and will not increase in the future. That is, you will not need to endlessly “catch up” with the possibility of receiving an insurance pension.

Important! For military pensioners, an old-age insurance pension is assigned without taking into account a fixed payment (a fixed amount paid as part of a pension to all civilian pensioners). The amount of the fixed payment in 2019 is 5,334.19 rubles.

To assign a civil pension to a military pensioner, you must contact the Office of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation at the place of residence with the appropriate application (it can be submitted using the electronic service on the website of the Pension Fund of Russia "Citizen's Personal Account"), having the necessary documents with you:

– proof of identity, age, place of residence, belonging to citizenship (passport, residence permit, etc.);

– insurance certificate of state pension insurance;

- a certificate of the established form, from the body that makes pension payments through the power department on the date of the appointment of the pension, the periods of service taken into account when determining the amount of the pension for length of service;

- documents confirming information about the insurance period (work book, employment contract, etc.).

The periods of work until the moment of registration of a citizen as an insured person are confirmed by a work book and (or) certificates of experience issued in the prescribed manner. In turn, the periods of work after the registration of a citizen as an insured person are confirmed by information from an individual personal account (ILS) that is at the disposal of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation.

In some cases, you may need documents about the place of stay or actual residence on the territory of the Russian Federation, about changing the last name, first name, patronymic, as well as a certificate of a participant in the Great Patriotic War, a participant in the liquidation of the consequences of the Chernobyl disaster and others confirming the applicant's appropriate status. The PFR specialists will inform you about the need to provide these documents immediately upon admission.

If a military pensioner, after the appointment of a second pension, continues to work in civilian institutions, then from August 1 of each year his insurance pension is indexed by the state on a non-declared basis.

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2018-07-10T16:05:01+00:00

Now you can’t keep up with her, then they will add experience, then age, by 2028. come up with something else.

2018-03-26T15:36:39+00:00

What can we say about the second (civilian) pension, when the military pension is not indexed by law to the level of inflation, 2% is frozen, indexation of EOI and DO for the first time in six years by a ridiculous 4%, with official inflation over the years about 50%. And discriminatory , frozen coefficient 0.54-0.7223 what is it worth ???

2017-12-17T19:41:47+00:00

Can't you tell me anything????

2017-10-13T16:34:16+00:00

SYNED IN CAN YOU ADVISE SOMETHING FOR ME?

2017-10-13T16:32:08+00:00

Can I get an answer here? The question is this - a military pensioner of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation has a Ukrainian passport where there is a permanent residence permit from 2013 in his own apartment, since he lived and served in Sevastopol since 1975. He issued a military pension in 1995 in Orel, from where he was drafted into the military school. I registered with my parents and applied for a pension. Then I checked out, had a temporary registration which I renewed but kept my passport. pension. From 2001 to 2005 he worked in the Russian Federation, acquired the right to the insurance part of a civil pension, returned to Sevastopol and continued to officially work in the Russian military fleet to this day. There is a work book, there is a Ukrainian passport confirming residence at the time of the referendum, there is a Russian passport, confirming the citizenship of the Russian Federation, receives a 1570 civil pension already in Sevastopol (transferred from Orel), but the PF of Sevastopol categorically refuses He calls to take into account the length of service according to the work book in Sevastopol from 2006 to 2017, TO MAKE A RECALCULATION OF THIS SMALL PENSION, he drives to the court. So that the court ALLOWS the application of Law 208-FZ, BUT THEY ASSURE - NOTHING WILL GET. What to do?

2017-08-22T10:14:50+00:00

2017-04-15T11:47:14+00:00

Dear experts! Help, pzhl, solve the problem of my friend. He is born in 1958. , he is 60 next year and is entitled to a second, civil pension. On his page in the STATE SERVICES, the value of the individual pension coefficient (IPC) is 130.332 For 2017, the cost of 1 pension coefficient is 78.58 rubles; Does this mean that his pension will be (today) 130.332*78.58 = 10,241.49 ??? It turns out too much, everyone complains that they received little. He has been working as a civilian since 1999, the salary has always been official.

2017-02-09T12:00:45+00:00

Hello! I am 62 years old, I live in the Crimea, I receive a military pension, I have 17 years of civil service (in Ukraine), it is not possible to confirm the salary, the position in the "labor" is the head of the department - deputy director of the branch (balance) bank. ..How to calculate additional pension?

2017-01-13T13:23:46+00:00

You're right, it's unbelievable. Do some simple math. School graduation is 18 years old. Service in the authorities, etc. -20 years. Insurance experience 25 years, taking into account that 15 years in the Kr.Severe. 18+20+25=63 years old. So what is the benefit for the military, if the second (insurance) pension can be received without any conditions from the age of 60?

2016-11-28T18:53:39+00:00

Perhaps you wanted to say in 2025.

2016-11-16T13:04:47+00:00

In October 2016, he turned 65 years old. I have 41 years of service in the Armed Forces, I receive a military pension. I work in the state institution, 4 years of experience, earned a penny. coefficient 28. When will the right to receive an insurance pension come into effect?

2016-11-13T23:16:42+00:00

"Fixed" in 2016 - this means in subsequent years the necessary insurance period for granting you a civil pension is 7 years.

2016-11-12T11:17:06+00:00

Thanks to our state for (taking care of) us. Pension military kopecks, so they don’t want to draw up insurance, too kopecks. Every year they change the laws so that God forbid we do not get rich. I am a working military pensioner, when I retired - my civilian experience was 5 years in 2010. In 2016, 55 years old, I went to apply for an insurance pension, refusal - 7 years of experience are needed, I agree well, but the math is simple - 2016-2010 7 will not work, in the pension I was told that on the date of reaching 55 years, my experience is not fixed, that is, in In 2016, I need 7 and each subsequent year is added accordingly, I can’t see these pensions as my ears. What to do? All this time, deductions were made to pensions, they don’t want to return this money, but they are mine, return them.

2016-11-01T16:59:09+00:00

No, I never received any payments, I didn’t even know about it. I thought about writing for 10 years and getting a small supplement to my pension (10 tr.). The amount has accumulated is good (about 500 tr.) and now they told me that I will not receive anything, since the insurance period is short and I do not receive an insurance pension

2016-10-31T22:48:09+00:00

Apparently, we are talking about a state co-financing program provided for by Federal Law No. 56-FZ. Indeed, the revisions made to this federal law by Federal Law No. 216-FZ of July 21, 2014. abolished the right of military pensioners - program participants to quadruple state co-financing. Now they, like ordinary pensioners, are entitled to co-financing of no more than 12 thousand per year. Regarding your inability to receive your pension savings. The payment of pension savings is regulated by Federal Law No. 360-FZ of November 30, 2011. Federal Law No. 214-FZ dated July 21, 2014 has made significant changes to it. Incl. Article 4, clause 1.2 reads as follows: “Insured persons who have exercised the right to receive pension savings in the form of a lump sum payment are entitled to reapply for a lump sum payment no earlier than five years from the date of the previous application” Thus, given that you previously received a lump sum payment of pension savings formed through participation in the co-financing program, then you will be able to receive the next payment no earlier than five years after the previous receipt. The duration of the insurance experience in this case does not play any role.

2016-10-29T14:17:49+00:00

Nina Veniaminovna Which article of the law confirms that the length of service is determined on the date of reaching the generally established retirement age? 1949, military pensioner. Since 2009 in the co-financing program. She has been working since 2010. In 2015, I discovered that the state added 12 tr to me, and not 48 - although I worked, I applied to the Pension Fund - they said that they made a mistake and next year they will add 2 years in September 2016 applied - again 12. They say that the law has changed. And then it turned out that I would not receive this money, either. I don’t receive an insurance pension (when they began to add a year and then I was still working, they said to the pensioner that the military is now with 6-7, and so on, years of retirement experience). They said that it takes 5 years, but I had 4g11m. 3 days. Work up to 5 years. I went and finished it for another 1 month. I come - you need 6 years. Otherwise, you will not receive anything (neither a pension nor co-financing money). Wrote a written application to explain to me how I can get my money on 13.09. 2016 - waiting for an answer. What are my next steps and on the basis of what (which articles of the law)?

2016-06-20T09:23:42+00:00

Dear N. Solovyov! Military pensioners will receive 100% of their earned pension only after 20 years. Now the state takes a tax of 50% from military pensions. Shamefully calling it a lowering coefficient. Yes, Nikolai in two years I will be 60 years old, by that time I have been 21 years old. But now he takes a tax of 34 thousand rubles. Military service 33 years.

2016-03-20T22:11:07+00:00

Since February 1, 2016, insurance pensions and fixed payments to insurance pensions of non-working pensioners have been indexed by 4%. Military pensioners do not receive a fixed payment as part of a civil pension. If you have not indexed your insurance pension, you need to contact the FIU with this question at the place where you received this very pension

If the leaders of the state and the Ministry of Defense fulfill their promise to increase the size of military pensions by 70% from January 2012, then this will be the most significant event in the life of military pensioners in the entire period of Russia's development since 1991. But, probably, everyone who is related to military pensions has certain doubts: why is it supposed to increase military pensions by only 70% while increasing the pay of military personnel by 3 times? 70% is a lot or a little, is it good or not? And when will military pensioners receive at least 40 ... 50% of the monetary allowance of military personnel?

In an exclusive interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta on April 22, 2010, Deputy Minister of Defense for Financial and Economic Affairs Vera Chistova noted the problem of transition of military pensioners to a labor pension. An excerpt from the interview: “... according to official statistics, as of April 1, 2010, the average labor pension in the country is 8.2 thousand rubles, and our veteran military personnel earn an average of only 8 thousand. Unfortunately, they have become poorer than their civilian counterparts. At the end of last year, we repeatedly reported to all authorities that a massive transition from military pensions to labor pensions had begun. From the point of view of social protection of military pensioners, this is an alarming trend.”

But the term "worrisome trend" is too mild for the current situation. Let's see why. The average length of service of the military and equivalent pensioners is about 30 years (according to Rosstat, on average, 81% of pensions are paid and, accordingly, the average length of service of military pensioners is about 30 years. Considering that many have preferential length of service, let the average be 5- years, then the average calendar service life of military pensioners is 25 years. That is, the average age of those retired varies between 40 ... 45 years. Then it turns out that for the remaining 15 ... 20 years (up to 60 years), many military pensioners earn more civil pension than for longer service in the army!
Thus, the trend of a massive transition from military to labor pensions is not just alarming, but critical (or maybe catastrophic?). Who wants to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation if he knows for sure that the pension is larger in civilian life and it can be earned faster?

It seems that military security in our Country is in the background, and completely different issues are being quickly resolved: the mine collapsed (this, of course, is a huge tragedy, but this has been happening regularly for hundreds of years, since they began to build mines for mining ) - a miner (or his family) will receive a pension as a colonel, if he entered the civil service, then the pension will be more (we'll see how much later) than for service in the RF Armed Forces. It is even better to be a doctor or a teacher, in a number of cities they already have more pensions than in military pensioners. We will not compare military pensioners with deputies (after all, people's deputies!), And even more so with the private sector, where salaries and pensions depend on the skills, abilities and business qualities of workers and are not limited to the limits that are understandable for budgetary pensioners ...

Such a situation with the level of military pensions in our country was not created even in the Soviet years. In the stagnant 70s, a major general's pension was 350 rubles a month, and a colonel's was 250 rubles. These same 250 rubles corresponded to the salary (and not the pension, which was 130 rubles!) of a highly paid city (regional) official! (according to modern concepts of the minister of the city (regional) administration).

What pensions are paid to officials now? In Perm, for example, they tried to deal with the pensions of ex-officials. And it turns out that three hundred former officials receive more pensions than generals.

And there are many such regions and territories in our country. With such high salaries of civilian officials (their number, for example, at the beginning of 2005 was 1 million 318 thousand 600 people), it turns out that there are dozens of times more posts that, in terms of accrued pensions, correspond to generals in the Armed Forces.

And in the entire Soviet Union, there were generally two times fewer officials than in the Russian Federation in 2005: in 1990, there were 663,000 bureaucrats in the USSR.

Today, in our country as a whole, the ratio of the average pension to the average salary for state employees is no more than 20 ... 25% with a tendency to further decline (the World Labor Organization recommends no lower than 40-70%). For reference: in 2000 the ratio of the average pension to the average salary was 30…35%. However, civil servants have made an exception for themselves. After working 15 years at their “harmful and hard” work, they are guaranteed to receive a pension of 45% of their salary , that they had when they retired (note that this salary will be higher than the average for the entire time the official worked). If the experience of "service to the people" exceeds 15 years, this ratio gradually (by 3% per year) increases, up to 75%. Not bad, isn't it?

Here is a table of average pension growth since 2000 (Rosstat). At the same time, one should not forget that, starting from 2005, the average civil pensions also take into account the outstripping growth of civil servants' pensions. And although the number of civil servants-pensioners is several tens of times less than ordinary pensioners, their pensions are on average three times higher than those of state employees receiving labor pensions.

Table 1

Average pension (rubles) at the beginning of the year in the public sector (Rosstat data) and forecast for their growth until 2012

2000	2001	2002	2003	2004	2005
841,2	1158,1	1481,7	1747,4	2060,6	3087

Table 1. Continued

2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011	2012
3859	4167	4410	4546	7126	8408	9077

Two examples from the Internet about the pensions of officials.

... Galina Svetkina, ex-minister of social protection of the regional government, receives a pension almost twice as much as Hero of the Soviet Union Ivan Vanichkin. He crossed the Dnieper with his anti-tank gun. On the captured patch of land, he fought off attacks for eighteen days. Only one remained. Vanichkin was shell-shocked by the shell explosion and covered with earth. When they dug it up, they thought it was not a tenant…. But he survived, got a Hero. About him and his friends, “Battalions ask for fire” are written. Vanichkin receives the usual pension plus 25 thousand as a Hero of the Soviet Union. And the former official of regional significance, Svetkina, is about 50 ... Well, how can one say about such a pension to war veterans and home front workers who shed blood on the battlefields or did not leave the machines for days?

... The deputies of the Samara provincial Duma have a pension, taking into account deputy and ordinary seniority, from 20 to 30 thousand rubles, and the former turner Ivan Goncharov, who, as a boy, stood at the machine during the war years and worked for 53 years, 6 months, 8 days, became disabled the second group - receives 5.5 thousand rubles. He asked for a raise so that at least there would be enough for medicines. Useless. Everyone politely explains to him - from Finance Minister Kudrin to an employee of the Pension Fund - that an increase in his pension is detrimental to the Russian economy, that the flywheel of inflation will spin and it will be worse for everyone, that the increase in pensions on average in the country amounted to as much as 20 percent ... It is clear, why familiar officials avert their eyes and keep quiet when the conversation turns to their pensions. Not only the state, but they themselves protect the final secret of their personal working life.

Let us analyze the growth of average pensions for servicemen since 2000.

table 2

Average pension of military personnel (rubles) from 2000 to the present and forecast until 2012

2000	2004	2010	2011	2012
2667	4000	8000	8760	13600

Brief conclusions.

• the average pensions of servicemen in 2000 exceeded labor pensions by three times;

• in 2010, the average pensions of the military became equal to the pensions of civilians;

• if the promises of the leaders of the state and the Ministry of Defense are fulfilled, then the average pensions of military personnel will exceed civil pensions in January 2012 by 1.5 times;

• the average pensions of officials in 2012 will be about twice as much as the pensions of military personnel (and three times more than the average for civilians!);

• the percentage ratio of military pensions and the salaries of military personnel will remain at a very low level, less than 15%, while since 2004 the ratio of pensions and salaries has been at the level of 45 ... 75% for retired officials with a length of service of 15 to 25 years.

Important note.

It is not only military pensioners and their families who daily experience the low standard of living of military pensioners. A number of parties, primarily Yabloko, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Just Russia and their leaders (unfortunately, the ruling United Russia party does not belong to this list), constantly remind about the need to reform the pension system for military personnel.

Thus, the Just Russia party, headed by its leader S. M. Mironov, Chairman of the Federation Council, drawing attention to the need to increase the level of pensions for retired military personnel, was one of the first to initiate the development of a federal law on increasing the amount of payments of monetary allowances to military personnel and military personnel. pensions. As the most important strategic task of improving social support measures, it was proposed to achieve by 2017 the amount of pensions for Russian military personnel transferred to the reserve within 60-80% of the average monthly salary of military personnel in active service.

As it became clear from an interview with Deputy Defense Minister Vera Chistova, the 2012 reform is only the first step in this direction. And in order to achieve a ratio of military pensions and salaries of military personnel of at least 40-50%, according to the principles laid down in the 2012 reform (and in order to get closer to the pensions of officials!), we will have to wait not until 2017, but another 5-10 years after that term. That is, most of today's military pensioners, unfortunately, will not be able to live to see a brighter future.